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Bug 4356 - Consider decommissioning TLCOS
: Consider decommissioning TLCOS
Status: CLOSED FIXED
: ThinLinc
| TLCOS (deprecated)
: 3.4.0
: PC Unknown
: P2 Normal
: 4.1.0
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: 3905
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Reported: 2012-06-28 13:06 by
Modified: 2013-05-21 09:33 (History)


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Graph of total issues which include TLCOS keyword (36.75 KB, image/png)
2013-04-04 07:24, Henrik Andersson
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Description From cendio 2012-06-28 13:06:57
TLCOS needs some serious TLC (ha), and it's difficult to justify spending time
on doing this, since we don't think there is much demand for it. We could
however verify this first, for example by checking the number of downloads for
TLCOS over the last few months.

If we decide to get rid of it, then we should make sure we remove:

- TLCOS
- Documentation (TAG, whitepapers)
- Website material/downloads
- Bugzilla targets etc
- Course material
- Build system components

And make a discontinuation announcement on the relevant channels. We also need
to make sure that any current customers using TLCOS are taken care of.
------- Comment #1 From cendio 2012-12-07 11:18:14 -------
Start by evaluating if we can remove TLCOS. This involves:

 - Getting some decent download statistics

 - Check with sales if any customers uses TLCOS, and how future sales might be
affected

 - Check support cases for TLCOS issues

 - Investigate possible alternatives for customers
------- Comment #3 From cendio 2013-04-04 07:24:11 -------
Created an attachment (id=470) [details]
Graph of total issues which include TLCOS keyword
------- Comment #4 From cendio 2013-04-04 13:35:45 -------
Greate guide for deploying thinstation using Windows 2008 WDS eg.
PXE boot thinstations images with a customized syslinuz boot menu.


http://dlehman.blogspot.se/2012/03/thinstation-50-and-windows-deployment.html
------- Comment #5 From cendio 2013-04-16 08:53:24 -------
I have done some tests using SUSE Studio which is a service to build an
costumized live/installation image based on JeOS (Just enough OS) which is very
minimal.
SUSE Studio does also provide a way for us to publish this base image so other
users can clone the configuration into their own appliance and customization,
all done though a nice Web UI.
------- Comment #6 From cendio 2013-04-18 08:00:58 -------
(In reply to comment #5)
> I have done some tests using SUSE Studio which is a service to build an
> costumized live/installation image based on JeOS (Just enough OS) which is very
> minimal.
> SUSE Studio does also provide a way for us to publish this base image so other
> users can clone the configuration into their own appliance and customization,
> all done though a nice Web UI.

After some more play with this service i have actually been able to create a
slim LXDE / OpenBox JeOS image which autostarts a thinclinc client. Need some
clenaup in menu configrations etc. but is a good base for a replacement.
------- Comment #8 From cendio 2013-04-18 09:08:09 -------
My opinion and summarization on this topic are:

TLCOS is used to give a customers a choice to push back the investment costs
with the effect of a higher maintenance cost. I see following alternatives:

Remove TLCOS from the product and its burden from us and refer alternatives
such as ThinStation or even a SUSE Studio base template. This way we will still
have the ability to use the sales pitch and give the customer a choice.

I think that the SUSE Studio alternative is the best choice due to its
simplicity and a customer who did use TLCOS could come very close to it.

ThinStation is another corner, if i had 200 Hp XXYY desktops, i would make an
slim pxe image to boot them on, but that is not often the case, 3-4 models at
least needs to be maintained in different boot images etc.. This is a too big
maintainance cost at end.
------- Comment #10 From cendio 2013-04-26 09:32:28 -------
Notices about discontinuation of TLCOS is added to the ThinLinc Administrators
Guide in commit 27196.
------- Comment #11 From cendio 2013-04-29 11:22:42 -------
Added a note to social media "todo" about announce of TLCOS discontinuation.

Tester should make sure that release notes contains a notice.